The country is “totally reliant” on the US, and would be better off as the 51st state, the US president has argued US President Donald Trump has vowed to no longer let…
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Massachusetts Governor Says She Won’t Obstruct ICE Efforts To Deport Criminals, But Cops Won’t Help
Massachusetts Governor Says She Won’t Obstruct ICE Efforts To Deport Criminals, But Cops Won’t Help Authored by Bill Pan via The Epoch Times (emphasis ours), Massachusetts Gov. Maura Healey said she supports…
US Army’s Next-Gen Hybrid Tactical Vehicle To Replace Humvee Tested In Germany
US Army’s Next-Gen Hybrid Tactical Vehicle To Replace Humvee Tested In Germany The US Army’s 3rd Brigade, 10th Mountain Division, recently tested General Motors Defense’s Infantry Squad Vehicle (ISV), built on the chassis of a Chevrolet Colorado…
Kiev loses its ‘last stronghold’ in southern Donbass – Russian MOD
The strategic town of Velikaya Novoselka in the Donetsk People’s Republic has been liberated, the military has said Russian troops have taken over the town of Velikaya Novoselka in the Donetsk People’s…
Why Greenland Matters: US Strategy In The Changing Arctic
Why Greenland Matters: US Strategy In The Changing Arctic Authored by Mike Fredenburg via The Epoch Times, To the shock of many, President Trump has declared his interest in acquiring Greenland, calling…
EU Considers German Chancellor Olaf Scholz’s Proposal Of Europe-Wide EV Incentives
EU Considers German Chancellor Olaf Scholz’s Proposal Of Europe-Wide EV Incentives The European Union is drafting bloc-wide incentives for electric vehicle purchases to aid struggling automakers, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz announced at…
Two more athletes refuse to return to Ukraine
Evgeny and Darya Pilipyuk have apparently cut ties with their home country after a youth karate tournament in Venice, Italy Ukrainian karate athletes Evgeny and Darya Pilipyuk have been kicked out of…
Switzerland arrests Palestinian-American journalist
It is unclear whether Electronic Intifada founder Ali Abunimah has been charged with a crime Police in Switzerland have arrested Palestinian-American journalist Ali Abunimah ahead of a speaking event in Zurich, according…
US officials pushing to unfreeze aid for Ukraine – FT
Diplomats have reportedly asked the government to make an exception for Kiev, after Trump suspended most of Washington’s foreign aid programs Several US diplomats have urged the State Department to make an…
The Europeans Are Unlikely To Accede To Zelensky’s Demand For 200,000 Peacekeepers
The Europeans Are Unlikely To Accede To Zelensky’s Demand For 200,000 Peacekeepers Authored by Andrew Korybko via substack, Zelensky demanded a minimum of 200,000 European peacekeepers during the panel session that followed his speech…
Belarus to get Russian Oreshnik shortly – Lukashenko
The intermediate-range ballistic missile system will be deployed in the country within days, the president has said Belarus expects the arrival of the Russian advanced intermediate-range ballistic missile system Oreshnik shortly, President…
‘No question of abandoning friendship’ – Indian envoy on ties with Russia
Indian Ambassador to Moscow Vinay Kumar discussed trade, energy, and the strong political ties between India and Russia in an interview with RT The partnership between New Delhi and Moscow is reliable…
Putin congratulates India on national holiday
The Russian president has praised relations with New Delhi and pledged to further strengthen “fruitful” ties Russian President Vladimir Putin has congratulated India on Republic Day, which marks the anniversary of the…
South Korean president indicted
Yoon Suk Yeol was earlier impeached and arrested after imposing martial law South Korean prosecutors have formally indicted President Yoon Suk Yeol on charges of leading an insurrection during his brief imposition…
DR Congo breaks ties with Rwanda
The government has accused the neighboring state of backing the M23 militia amid a resurgence of violence in the eastern regions The Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) has broken off diplomatic…
North Korea fires strategic cruise missiles (PHOTOS)
The test reportedly saw the projectiles travel 1,500km and was the first since US President Donald Trump took office North Korea has successfully launched several sea-based long-range strategic cruise missiles, the state-run…
Trump to decide on TikTok’s US future within 30 days
The president has said he is in constant talks to have domestic investors take over the popular app to reduce its Chinese ownership US President Donald Trump announced on Saturday that he…
President Trump Celebration Rally – Las Vegas, Nevada – 3:30pm EST Livestream
Today at 3:30pm EST, President Trump will be holding a post-inauguration celebration rally in Las Vegas, Nevada. RSBN is broadcasting live from the venue, with livestream links below. RSBN YouTube Livestream –…
CIA shifts stance on Covid origins
The agency now believes “with low confidence” that Covid-19 likely came from a lab leak The CIA now believes it is “more likely” that Covid-19 originated from a lab-leak incident rather than…
January 26th – 2025 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day 6
In an effort to keep the Daily Open Thread a little more open topic we are going to start a new daily thread for “Presidential Politics”. Please use this thread to post…
Sunday January 26th – Open Thread
Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And…
Ukraine will never join NATO – EU state’s PM
The country’s membership in the European Union is also unlikely, Slovakia’s Robert Fico has said Ukraine will never join NATO, and its bid for EU membership is unlikely to succeed, Slovak Prime…
Russian ally votes for president
Polling stations have opened in Belarus for Election Day Polling stations across Belarus have opened for the main day of the presidential election, and will operate from 8am to 8pm local time….
Trump confirms foreign aid freeze
The US president has promised a return to his ‘America First’ policy during his second term US President Donald Trump has confirmed that he has enacted a sweeping suspension of aid to…
Rubio Tells Chinese Counterpart That US Interests Come First
Rubio Tells Chinese Counterpart That US Interests Come First Authored by Dorothy Li via The Epoch Times (emphasis ours), U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio has told his Chinese counterpart that the…
How Consciousness Opens Doors To Higher Dimensions
How Consciousness Opens Doors To Higher Dimensions Authored by Yuhong Dong M.D., Ph.D. & Makai Allbert via The Epoch Times (emphasis ours), Dr. Eben Alexander was at the height of his career…
Chess prodigy at three: He’s internationally ranked but is confused and scared by the limelight
Anish Sarkar began playing chess on a train and now practices eight hours a day after becoming the world’s youngest ever FIDE-rated player January 4 saw a ceremony to celebrate the achievements…
Marilyn Manson won’t be charged with sexual assault
Prosecutors said there was not enough evidence to prove that the rock star had abused women US rocker Marilyn Manson will not be charged with sexual assault and domestic violence, prosecutors in…
US could soon become ‘a bigger country’ – Trump
The president has said that the territory of the United State could increase in the future The US could acquire new territories in the future, President Donald Trump has told a crowd…
59% Of Americans Don’t Have Enough Savings For A $1,000 Emergency: Report
59% Of Americans Don’t Have Enough Savings For A $1,000 Emergency: Report Authored by Naveen Athrappully via The Epoch Times (emphasis ours), Most Americans cannot afford a $1,000 emergency expense, with inflation…
US Passed Secret Intelligence To AQ-Linked Rulers Of Syria: WaPo
US Passed Secret Intelligence To AQ-Linked Rulers Of Syria: WaPo Hayʼat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), which rules Syria from Damascus under Jolani, is still a designated Foreign Terrorist Organization under US law. The only…
Trump allows Israel to use ‘heavy bombs’ – media
The lifting of the restriction of weapons shipments was reportedly tied to ceasefire negotiations US President Donald Trump has approved the delivery of 2,000-pound bombs to Israel, overturning a suspension imposed by…
Experts Warn Of China’s Escalating Cyberattacks On Japan And US Defenses
Experts Warn Of China’s Escalating Cyberattacks On Japan And US Defenses Authored by Sean Tseng and Jon Sun via The Epoch Times (emphasis ours), Chinese cyberattacks on Japan’s defense, aerospace, and advanced…
Christian church to change name in bid to fight off EU state’s crackdown
Estonian officials have threatened to shut down monasteries if they don’t cut ties with Russia The Estonian Orthodox Church (EOC) will change its name in response to the pressure from the authorities…
Federal DEI Officials Try To Disguise To Keep Their Jobs, But There’s Nowhere To Hide
Federal DEI Officials Try To Disguise To Keep Their Jobs, But There’s Nowhere To Hide The hunt begins. On day one of his second term Donald Trump put the federal government’s weight…
Supreme Court Allows Law Requiring Small Businesses To Report Ownership Information
Supreme Court Allows Law Requiring Small Businesses To Report Ownership Information Authored by Matthew Vadum via The Epoch Times (emphasis ours), The U.S. Supreme Court voted 8–1 on Jan. 23 to allow…
House Passes Bill To Protect Babies Born Alive After Failed Abortions
House Passes Bill To Protect Babies Born Alive After Failed Abortions Authored by Samantha Flom via The Epoch Times (emphasis ours), A bill to establish standards of care for babies born alive…
“Closer To Disinformation”: Ex-Politico Reporters Reveal How “Cowardly Editors” Helped Biden Win 2020 Election
“Closer To Disinformation”: Ex-Politico Reporters Reveal How “Cowardly Editors” Helped Biden Win 2020 Election Two former Politico reporters revealed how “cowardly editors” at their former publication carried water for Joe Biden in…
‘Future of Europe’ hangs on German snap elections – Musk
The entrepreneur has reaffirmed his support for the right-wing Alternative for Germany party ahead of the February vote The SpaceX and Tesla CEO Elon Musk expressed his “full support” for the right-wing…
Whistleblower: FBI’s New Orleans Boss Stayed On Vacation after New Year’s Terrorist Attack
Whistleblower: FBI’s New Orleans Boss Stayed On Vacation after New Year’s Terrorist Attack Authored by Ken Silva via Headline USA, Apparently the second-deadliest foreign-inspired terrorist attack in the U.S. since 9/11 wasn’t…
EU nation’s PM points fighter at Kiev over anti-government protests
A significant number of demonstrators in Bratislava were Ukrainians, Slovak leader Robert Fico said Ukrainians were a major force behind large anti-government demonstrations held across Slovakia, Prime Minister Robert Fico claimed on…
Lower 48 Polar Blast Coldest “Since 1994” As Global Warming Alarmists Go Silent
Lower 48 Polar Blast Coldest “Since 1994” As Global Warming Alarmists Go Silent After years of “unprecedented man-made global boiling” propaganda pushed by woke scientists, far-left corporate media outlets, grifting ‘green’ billionaires, and…
As Four Israeli Hostages Released, Hamas Displays It Has Entire Well-Armed Battalion
As Four Israeli Hostages Released, Hamas Displays It Has Entire Well-Armed Battalion Israel, Palestinians, and the United States are all celebrating after on Saturday the second big hostage exchange went off successfully….
Rubio To Visit Panama Amid Rising Tensions Over Canal
Rubio To Visit Panama Amid Rising Tensions Over Canal Authored by Darlene McCormick Sanchez via The Epoch Times (emphasis ours), Secretary of State Marco Rubio is set to make his first trip…
Where there’s oil there’s a way: Can US sanctions halt Russian crude exports to India?
New Delhi’s role as a counterweight to China solidifies its status as Washington’s’ key partner in South Asia, outweighing short-term concerns over Russian oil revenues The year 2025 had barely started when…
How Liberal Party’s Joe Hockey steals from the $368 billion AUKUS fraud scam from cradle to grave
Former federal treasurer Joe Hockey is stealing $millions from Australian taxpayers via the $368 billion AUKUS fraud scam and he is trying to control AUKUS from cradle to grave via Liberal Party…
Noem Confirmed As DHS Secretary
Noem Confirmed As DHS Secretary The Senate on Saturday confirmed Kristi Noem as President Donald Trump’s Secretary of Homeland Security, meaning that the South Dakota governor will be in charge of a…
EU military chief wants troops in Greenland
Brussels has “interests” on the island just like Washington, Gen. Robert Brieger has said, pointing to tensions with Russia and China The European Union should deploy military forces in Greenland, the chairman…
Orban will face ‘consequences’ for blocking sanctions – Polish PM
The Hungarian leader has threatened to obstruct the EU’s sanctions on Russia if Ukraine refuses to resume gas transits Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk has warned that his Hungarian counterpart, Viktor Orban,…
Did Hedge Funds Steal Half Their Investors’ Money?
Did Hedge Funds Steal Half Their Investors’ Money? Authored by Aaron Brown via RealClearMarkets, A report released by LCH Research got widespread coverage with the Wall Street Journal making its headline, “Hedge-Fund Fees Eat…
Hungary labels Polish PM ‘Soros agent’
Budapest won’t be coerced into supporting sanctions, Peter Szijjarto has told Donald Tusk Hungarian Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto has branded Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk an “agent” of billionaire financier George Soros,…
Watch: Trump Destroys LA Mayor To Her Face During Wild Press Conference Spat
Watch: Trump Destroys LA Mayor To Her Face During Wild Press Conference Spat President Donald Trump slammed Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass (D) and other Democrat public officials during a Friday press…
Secretary Rubio Pauses Foreign Aid While President Trump Removes More than a Dozen Inspectors General
The promises of an America-First agenda in combination with clearing out the bureaucracy is underway as the first five days of the administration culminate. Secretary of State Marco Rubio has put a…
Most Ukrainians believe corruption on the rise – poll
People believe graft is the second biggest problem in the country, behind the conflict with Russia Most Ukrainians think that corruption has worsened over the past year, with an overwhelming majority seeing…
Only two genders to be recognized in constitution – EU state’s PM
Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico has described the initiative as a return to “common sense” Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico has announced plans to amend the country’s constitution to officially recognize only…
Vice-President JD Vance Swears-in Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth
Vice President JD Vance swears-in newly confirmed Pete Hegseth as Defense Secretary. Both Vice-President Vance and Secretary Hegseth delivered remarks during the ceremony. WATCH: . Posted in JD Vance, Military, Patriotism…
Baltic Sea won’t become NATO’s ‘internal lake’ – Russian deputy FM
Moscow will respond appropriately to any moves by the US-led bloc in the region, Aleksandr Grushko has said Russia will do everything necessary to protect its interests in the Baltic Sea amid…
London houses upwards of 600,000 illegal migrants – Telegraph
The number represents some 60% of the UK’s total population of undocumented immigrants, according to a new study Upwards of 600,000 illegal migrants are living in London, The Telegraph has reported, citing…
CBP One App Shutdown As Mass Deportations Of Illegal Aliens Begins
CBP One App Shutdown As Mass Deportations Of Illegal Aliens Begins For four years the Biden Administration and Democrats flooded the US with tens-of-millions of illegal aliens from third-world nations. And, for…
The Most Historic 100 Hours in Modern American History
From the White House: . Posted in 2025 – Term 2, President Trump The post The Most Historic 100 Hours in Modern American History appeared first on The Last Refuge.
Israel frees 200 Palestinian prisoners
Crowds lined the streets of Ramallah to greet the captives, who were exchanged for four Israeli soldiers Some 200 Palestinians have been released from Israeli jails as part of the Gaza ceasefire…
Russian intel chief ready to meet with new CIA boss
Moscow is always ready for talks, Sergey Naryshkin has told TASS The head of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR), Sergey Naryshkin, has said he is ready to meet with the newly…
Saturday January 25th – Open Thread
Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And…
Mitch McConnell Votes Against Pete Hegseth, JD Vance Breaks Senate Tie, President Trump Responds to News of McConnell’s Vote
For 20-years we have called out the Machievellian nature of Mitch McConnell and his duplicitous agenda to support the UniParty apparatus in Washington DC. Heck, even the name of this site, “The…
Gavin Newsom Meets President Trump on Tarmac in Los Angeles
California Governor Gavin Newsom didn’t have a choice, not really. Newsom knows President Trump, and he knows what pragmatic common sense means in the aftermath of crisis. The California Governor knew President…
President Trump Soaks Los Angeles Mayor With Buckets of Common Sense
During a press conference following a review of the devastated area, President Trump questioned why he was being told by Los Angeles residents that it would take 18 months for permits to…
Kiev seeking to boost enlistment of under-25 cohort – Zelensky aide
Under new amendments, younger men will be given financial and other incentives to sign contracts with the military, Nikolay Schur has said The office of the Ukrainian president will propose amendments in…
January 25th – 2025 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day 6
In an effort to keep the Daily Open Thread a little more open topic we are going to start a new daily thread for “Presidential Politics”. Please use this thread to post…
Prof. Schlevogt’s Compass № 10: China’s silky future in a realigned world
The country’s road ahead looks increasingly bleak, but it has great countercyclical expansion potential via domestic and international rebalancing In a daring thought experiment, imagine just for a moment that you are…
Trump 2.0 & The “Sanctions Industrial Complex”
Trump 2.0 & The “Sanctions Industrial Complex” Authored by Hekmat Aboukhater via The Mises Institute, As the Washington drawbridge lowers for a second Trump administration, the world attempts to glean any insights…
England’s Average Bachelor-Level Tuition Fees Surpass That Of The US
England’s Average Bachelor-Level Tuition Fees Surpass That Of The US The OECD’s latest Education at a Glance report has found that England has the highest university tuition fees in the world on the bachelor…
Biden joins black Freemasons
The former US president could technically be excommunicated from the Catholic Church for becoming a Master Mason Former US President Joe Biden, a self-professed Catholic, has joined an African-American Masonic lodge as…
Russia-West reset inevitable – senior Polish MP
The West is eagerly awaiting a return to “business as usual” with the sanctioned country, Krzysztof Bosak has said The West is waiting for the opportunity to reset relations with Russia after…
Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Thanks Trump For Full Pardon
Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Thanks Trump For Full Pardon Authored by Mehab Qureshi via CoinTelegraph.com, Silk Road founder Ross Ulbricht, who had been serving a double life sentence without parole, publicly…
Gazprom In Turmoil, Forced To Hike Prices On Russians In Middle Of Winter
Gazprom In Turmoil, Forced To Hike Prices On Russians In Middle Of Winter Authored by Liz Heflin via Remix News, Facing losses, huge debts, and layoffs, Gazprom is now turning to Russian…
‘Jihad mobiles’ sent to Donbass – Chechen leader
Ramzan Kadyrov announced the delivery of 15 GAZ trucks capable of carrying heavy weapons to the Russian military Russian troops in Donbass will soon receive a batch of so-called ‘jihad mobiles’ from…
Visualizing Europe’s Dependence On Chinese Resources
Visualizing Europe’s Dependence On Chinese Resources Despite efforts to reduce dependence on China for critical materials, Europe remains heavily reliant on Chinese resources. This graphic, via Visual Capitalist’s Bruno Venditti, shows the percentage…
EU state to expel ‘foreign instructors’ plotting coup – PM
Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico earlier accused operatives who participated in the Ukrainian Maidan and in Georgia’s protests of brewing unrest in his country Slovakia will expel “foreign instructors” allegedly involved in…
Lukashenko’s seventh rodeo: Belarus prepares for a presidential election
What is the goal of the opposition and how does the international community view Alexander Lukashenko’s next presidential term? On Sunday, Belarus will hold its seventh presidential election since gaining independence. Incumbent…
Six injured in Boeing mid-air incident in Nigeria (VIDEO)
A US-bound flight was forced to return to Lagos after a United Airlines Boeing 787 experienced an emergency Four passengers and two crew members sustained serious injuries when a United Airlines flight…
Trump wants Ukraine ‘off his table’ – Bolton
The new US administration is “bad news” for Kiev, the former national security adviser has claimed US President Donald Trump does not want the Ukraine conflict complicating his agenda and may well…
Fyodor Lukyanov: Here’s what Trump 2.0 means for the US and Russia
The 47th president wants to end conflicts but not resolve them The flood of headlines about US President Donald Trump’s first days back in the White House are stunning but unsurprising. We…
Rhino calf birth in South Africa gives hope for species preservation (VIDEO)
‘Care for Wild’ focuses on preserving rhinos and protecting biodiversity through rapid rescue, rehabilitation, and rewilding efforts The joy of a rhino calf birth has visited Care for Wild Rhino Sanctuary twice…
Africa will play a crucial role in the rising new world
Russia sees the African continent as a major side of the global multipolarity I prefer to die with my head unbowed, my faith unshakeable and with profound trust in the destiny of…
Hamas releases four Israeli hostages (VIDEO)
The move comes as part of the ceasefire deal with the Palestinian armed group Hamas has released four female Israeli hostages as part of the ceasefire deal with West Jerusalem, handing them…
Euroclear warns against seizing Russian assets
Moscow’s response could further destabilize EU financial markets, the CEO of the clearinghouse has said The confiscation of Russian assets frozen by the West as part of Ukraine-related sanctions could lead to…
US halts programs for migrants, including Ukrainians – NYT
Donald Trump issued executive orders aimed at tackling illegal immigration earlier this week US officials have paused several immigration programs, including those allowing Ukrainians to temporarily settle in the country, as part…
Trump squeezing Denmark over Greenland – FT
The Danish PM had a “horrendous” conversation with the US president about acquiring the island, officials have told the paper US President Donald Trump is serious about taking over Greenland and aggressively…
Mexico rejects US deportation flight – media
US President Donald Trump has vowed to ramp up expulsions of illegal migrants from the country Mexico has refused to allow a US military plane carrying deportees to land on its territory,…
Pentagon’s New Mideast Policy Chief Wants To Scale Down US Presence In Region
Pentagon’s New Mideast Policy Chief Wants To Scale Down US Presence In Region Authored by Dave DeCamp via AntiWar.com, The Trump administration has appointed a new Middle East policy chief in the…
White House Office Of Gun Violence Prevention Webpage Goes Dark On Trump’s 2nd Day
White House Office Of Gun Violence Prevention Webpage Goes Dark On Trump’s 2nd Day Authored by Michael Clements via The Epoch Times, Second Amendment advocates are celebrating, and gun control activists are…
Distrust In Leaders (And Journalists) Ticks Up Again
Distrust In Leaders (And Journalists) Ticks Up Again Edelman has once more released its annual Trust Barometer, capturing a snapshot of how people around the world feel about today’s leaders. The findings are…
China’s DeepSeek Bombshell Rocks Trump’s $500BN AI Boondoggle
China’s DeepSeek Bombshell Rocks Trump’s $500BN AI Boondoggle Authored by Mark Whitney, The future of humanity is being decided as we speak. And it is not being decided on a battlefield in…
Visualizing NATO’s And Russia’s Militarization Of The Arctic
Visualizing NATO’s And Russia’s Militarization Of The Arctic Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, the Arctic has been considered a politically neutral zone, marked by the peaceful international cooperation of scientists….
These Are The World’s Worst Organized-Crime Hot-Spots
These Are The World’s Worst Organized-Crime Hot-Spots Organized crime groups have surged in recent decades, aided by the rise of synthetic drugs, encrypted technologies, and multinational operations. For instance, a leading Brazilian…
Can Trump Save The Dollar?
Can Trump Save The Dollar? Authored by J.R.Macleod via The Mises Institute, During his 2024 presidential campaign Donald Trump repeatedly and in grave terms highlighted the possibility of the US dollar losing…
Pete Hegseth confirmed as next Pentagon chief
US Vice President J.D. Vance has cast the decisive vote in favor of Donald Trump’s pick The US Senate has confirmed army veteran and Fox News contributor Pete Hegseth as the next…
Affordable Broadband Law In New York Led AT&T To Drop 5G Home Service Entirely
Affordable Broadband Law In New York Led AT&T To Drop 5G Home Service Entirely Authored by Mike Shedlock via MishTalk.com, Neither New York nor California understands that companies won’t sell products for…
Canadian Premier Says US Retaliatory Tariffs Should Be Targeted
Canadian Premier Says US Retaliatory Tariffs Should Be Targeted Authored by Carolina Avenando via The Epoch Times (emphasis ours), Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe says he supports targeted counter-tariffs in response to potential…
Veteran Democrat Strategist Admits ‘Resistance’ Has No Response To Trump, Begs Biden To Disappear
Veteran Democrat Strategist Admits ‘Resistance’ Has No Response To Trump, Begs Biden To Disappear Veteran Democrat strategist James Carville admitted on the Politics War Room podcast that the Democrat Party is struggling…